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dingdong
注册时间2004-08-10
[8卦]瑞富股价大跌 - 总裁欠公司巨款辞职
楼主发表于:2005-10-11 13:59只看该作者倒序浏览
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从昨天开始,美国各大报纸报道,瑞富总裁欠瑞富4亿3千万美元,现辞职。投资者纷纷抛售,债权人纷纷登门索债,他们担心,这个公司如果能隐瞒这样一笔欠款,可能还有其它掩盖的问题。
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haiyun
注册时间2004-12-26
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发表于:2005-10-11 14:02只看该作者
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原帖由 dingdong 于 2005-10-11 21:59 发表 从昨天开始,美国各大报纸报道,瑞富总裁欠瑞富4亿3千万美元,现辞职。投资者纷纷抛售,债权人纷纷登门索债,他们担心,这个公司如果能隐瞒这样一笔欠款,可能还有其它掩盖的问题。
哇!:L
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ttnt
注册时间2004-05-11
发表于:2005-10-11 14:05只看该作者
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http://finance.sina.com.cn/stock/usstock/c/20051011/06532022243.shtml Refco执行长被要求休假 股价下跌33% -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://finance.sina.com.cn 2005年10月11日 06:53 新浪财经   【MarketWatch纽约10月10日讯】周一,Refco Inc.(RFX)股价下跌近33%。此前,Refco称,该公司欠董事长兼执行长菲利普-R-班尼特(Phillip R. Bennett)控股的公司4亿3000万美元,此事发现之后,班尼特被要求休假。   Refco判定2002-2005财年的年报不一定可靠。此外,该公司期下的Refco Group和Refco Finance将可能不得不推迟公布各自的季报。   截至美东时间周一下午1:29,Refco Inc.(RFX)股价下跌了9.40美元,至19.16美元,跌幅为32.91%,成交量1368万6300股。 [ 本帖最后由 ttnt 于 2005-10-11 22:08 编辑 ]
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snipermoon
注册时间2003-03-03
发表于:2005-10-11 14:08只看该作者
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怕怕!
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dingdong
注册时间2004-08-10
楼主发表于:2005-10-11 14:14只看该作者
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原帖由 haiyun 于 2005-10-11 22:02 发表 哇!:L
这里是纽约时报的全文,有谁英文好,给翻译一下。 October 11, 2005 Chief Is Out at Refco; He Owed It Millions By VIKAS BAJAJ and FLOYD NORRIS Refco Inc., a futures-trading company that went public two months ago, ousted its chief executive yesterday after discovering that a firm he controlled owed the company $430 million. Refco's shares fell 45 percent, reducing the company's market value by $1.65 billion. Refco said that Phillip R. Bennett, the chairman and chief executive, had been suspended yesterday, although he repaid the $430 million in cash the same day. It said that it had hired forensic accountants to look into the matter and that it would delay its quarterly filing to the Securities and Exchange Commission. Although Refco said Mr. Bennett was on leave, it also announced his permanent successor, William M. Sexton, who was executive vice president and chief operating officer but had recently announced plans to leave the company. It was unclear how badly Refco had been damaged because the repayment of the $430 million improved its liquidity. But the company seemed unsure whether there were any other problems, and investors rushed to sell. Its stock fell $12.96, to $15.60, in extremely heavy trading. It had been sold to the public for $22 a share in an August offering that realized $583 million: $275 million for Refco and the rest for shareholders who sold, including Mr. Bennett, 57. The company said a group controlled by Mr. Bennett apparently assumed debts owed to it by unrelated third parties, adding that some of them might have been uncollectible. Mr. Bennett, a Briton, joined Refco in 1981 from Chase Manhattan and played a big part in transforming the firm - first as its chief financial officer and later as chief executive - from a much smaller privately held commodities broker in Chicago to a global futures operation based in New York. Raymond Earl Friedman founded Refco in 1969, and the company derives its name from his initials. In its fiscal year ended February 2005, Refco reported $3.7 billion in revenue and $176.3 million in profit, compared with $1.87 billion in revenue and $187.2 million in profit in 2004. At the end of trading on Friday, Refco had a market capitalization of $3.64 billion, a figure that fell to less than $2 billion yesterday. The $430 million in receivables was on Refco's balance sheet, the company said, but it had never disclosed it as a related-party transaction; such disclosure is customary and required when companies have significant business dealings with executives and other employees. For that reason, the company said, its auditors from Grant Thornton had withdrawn their certification of its financial statements. A spokesman for Grant Thornton declined to comment further, saying it was bound by confidentiality agreements. Refco was controlled by Thomas H. Lee Partners, a private equity firm, before it went public, and Lee still owns 38 percent of the stock. In a telephone interview, Scott Schoen, co-president of the Lee firm, said that neither he nor Mr. Lee, who also sits on the board, had known about the receivables until recent days. The company said it had created an executive committee of the board and named Mr. Schoen chairman. Asked how it was that the Lee firm had not known, Mr. Schoen replied that it had "performed extensive work" on the company, adding that the auditors had also been unaware of the transactions. The auditors said only that they "recently learned of the facts" disclosed yesterday. Mr. Sexton, the new chief, said he had not known about the receivables before recent days. He said he had gotten along well with Mr. Bennett and there had been no clashes that led to his decision to resign. Mr. Schoen said that the board earlier was disappointed by Mr. Sexton's intended departure and hurried to persuade him to stay after deciding to suspend Mr. Bennett. Mr. Bennett, whose lawyer declined to comment, owns 34 percent of Refco, worth $672 million even after yesterday's decline. In the initial offering, he sold stock worth $118 million at the time. Most of the rest of the $308 million worth of stock sold in the offering was sold by the Lee firm and its affiliates. Receivables consist of money owed to a company by customers or others. For a separate company controlled by Mr. Bennett to become responsible for $430 million of them, it either had to be a substantial customer of Refco - something the company would have been required to disclose - or it would have had to make arrangements with customers. A chief executive dealing with customers in such areas, separately from the company, would also normally require disclosure, at least to the board and perhaps to the public. When Refco went public in August, it disclosed that it was the subject of an S.E.C. investigation that started four years ago and dealt with short sales of stock in the Sedona Corporation, a software maker. Refco said at the time that it expected a settlement of the suit with the S.E.C. that would bar Santo C. Maggio, who headed the company's securities unit, from supervising employees. It said it expected Mr. Maggio to remain with Refco. But no settlement has been announced, and the company said yesterday that Mr. Maggio had been suspended from his post. Mr. Schoen said he was suspended because he had known about the receivables transactions involving Mr. Bennett, not because of the earlier issue that led to the S.E.C. inquiry. Mr. Maggio's lawyer refused to comment. After Refco's disclosure yesterday, Standard & Poor's lowered its credit rating to B+ from BB- and placed it on credit watch with negative implications, indicating a further downgrade was possible. Both ratings are below investment grade. Tom Foley, an analyst with the credit-rating agency, said bondholders and banks that had lent Refco money could use the latest disclosure to force it to repay the debt sooner than scheduled, putting Refco under financial pressure. Also, he said, "this indicates a possibility that there could be other accounting control issues." Mr. Sexton, Refco's new chief executive, and Joseph Murphy, who was appointed president of Refco yesterday, told employees in a memo that the accounting investigation would not affect day-to-day operations. As of Aug. 31, the company had $648.6 million in cash. Since then, it has used about $230 million to pay down a portion of its $1.4 billion in debt. The figures do not include the $430 million in cash that Refco received from Mr. Bennett yesterday.
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DKING
注册时间2005-10-03
发表于:2005-10-11 14:15只看该作者
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。。。要转公司咯!
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迅疾如风
注册时间2003-07-12
发表于:2005-10-11 14:18只看该作者
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这么严重? 考虑明天再提次款,少留点钱。
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woodhot
注册时间2005-03-04
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发表于:2005-10-11 14:31只看该作者
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福汇的有没有影响啊?
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村长1
注册时间2005-01-31
发表于:2005-10-11 14:42只看该作者
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原帖由 woodhot 于 2005-10-11 22:31 发表 福汇的有没有影响啊?
对呀,,不是听说瑞富是FXCM的股东吗?? 谁知道瑞富占多少股份???
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han_wang
注册时间2004-07-18
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发表于:2005-10-11 14:58只看该作者
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原帖由 迅疾如风 于 2005-10-11 22:18 发表 这么严重? 考虑明天再提次款,少留点钱。
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俺就是传说中的‘喊王’!

dingdong
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原帖由 woodhot 于 2005-10-11 22:31 发表 福汇的有没有影响啊?
瑞富起码有20%的股份
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han_wang
注册时间2004-07-18
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发表于:2005-10-11 15:04只看该作者
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原帖由 woodhot 于 2005-10-11 22:31 发表 福汇的有没有影响啊?
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俺就是传说中的‘喊王’!

股匠
注册时间2004-09-18
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发表于:2005-10-11 15:25只看该作者
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tfzhw
注册时间2005-06-27
发表于:2005-10-11 15:50只看该作者
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看到refco在nfa有那么多牌心里就不踏实,本分经营有一个牌就够了,那么多牌肯定用来玩猫腻。还是躲他远点,。
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aaas
注册时间2005-08-02
发表于:2005-10-11 15:56只看该作者
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瑞富刚上市就出事对其金融业务影响较大,外汇业务保证金一定会有冲击。 首先其做市商资格信用受到质疑,与银行合作关系会因该事件影响恶化债权人股票股东会诉讼法律。 尚不清楚资金周转是否会因为挪用资金而影响公司运转。 外汇市场间由于其公司经营问题是否会影响杠杆倍数的交易甚至取消其为客户开展杠杆倍数给客户的外汇交易资格! 虽然还清楚其公司具体财务状况但决不亚于金融界的安然,其名誉严重受损! FXCM据说在美国自有资金为四千七百多万美元
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10kUSD
注册时间2005-09-23
发表于:2005-10-11 16:05只看该作者
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这个才是灭顶之灾啊, 恐怖
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云朵
注册时间2004-12-04
发表于:2005-10-11 16:11只看该作者
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Please wait for a site operator to respond. You are now chatting with our Online representative. 您现在正在和瑞富外汇线上客户服务员对话 Refco:jk: Welcome to Refco's Live Chat. How may I help you today? Refco:jk: 您好,这是Refco客户服务中心,有什么可以帮你吗? you: 请问,瑞富公司发生啥事了? Refco:jk: 沒有事 you: 瑞富股价大跌 - 总裁欠公司巨款辞职 you: (新浪全文)瑞富称发现一笔4.3亿美金关联交易CEO牵涉其中 you: REFCO崩盘的真相 you: 这是咋回事呀??? you: 真的吗? Refco:jk: 我們不作評論 you: 那就是真的了 Refco:jk: 可以看http://ir.refco.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=175922 you: 客户资金能提吗? Refco:jk: 是有關詳細資料 you: 客户资金能提吗? Refco:jk: 可以 you: 谢谢 Refco:jk: 谢谢
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发表于:2005-10-11 16:25只看该作者
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全文翻译的. 另外用DR.EYE翻的比较好明白 Refco休假放首席执行长官,股票 10月10日百分之45的星期一下降 由克里斯·桑德斯 纽约,10月10日(路透社) -Refco股份有限公司(RFX.N:引语,外形,研究) 股票在星期一减少百分之45, 在商品经纪人休假放它的首席执行官之后,使调查进入4.3亿美元它被他控制的一个实体欠。 公司,在8月公开并且是世界的最大和非常强有力的商品和期货经销商之一, 此外说它或许将推迟把它10 Q季度财务报表与政券管理者给结束8月的四分之一一起归档。 31. 在星期一的亏损的公司股票市价的16.5亿美元。 Refco 说问也是主席的首席执行长官菲利普斯·贝内特的它,为了带请假,在发现大约4.3亿美元的应收之后。 在星期一贝内特有兴趣付还了钱。 一位律师描述贝内特没为意见回个电话。 圣吐Maggio,Refco证券有限责任公司和Refco资本市场,有限公司的总裁和首席执行官,也被要带请假。 托马斯H。 李·合伙人的总裁斯克特·舍恩,其私人公平公司拥有大约Refco的股票的百分之39,说Maggio也被发现有" 知识的一些步" 应收。 Refco已经雇佣独立检查官和法庭的核算员帮助它的董事会调查与贝内特有关的问题。 同时,舍恩被任命为一个新近形成的董事会执行委员会的主席。 公司对它有"的雇员在一个备忘录里说 充裕的流动性" 继续它的生意,它不期望来自内部的回顾的任何对日常的行动的影响。 回顾到目前为止显示贝内特,在告诉公司时,控制住已经也许考虑uncollectable的应收的4.3亿美元。 回顾的细节已经被向全部相关的管理者报告,公司说。 如果贝内特透露他的应收的控制,公司的财务报表就会反映出那。 但是给欠债解释的路,Refco 说它确定那财务报表 2002, 2003, 2004 并且2005不可靠。 金融可能将被重新陈述,说在研究过程中的美国证券分析家迈克尔·赫克特的Banc注意到。 ,"假使有公司的早先的说明和规章的问题,这今天很可能有有意义的对股票的负的影响," 赫克特补充说。 贝内特接管在1998年运转Refco。 在那时Refco的当时的主席托马斯·迪特默把贝内特描述为喝一" 子弹证据" 历年成绩记录合理决策和一" 认出的金融身高" . 他从大通曼哈顿银行在1981年已经参加Refco,在那里他用信贷和商业贷款工作。 到1983年,他是在Refco的首席财务官。 Refco过去已经与规章的问题斗争。 在五月中旬, 证券交易委员会告诉经纪人它继股票的卖空交易的探查之后很可能推荐对公司的民事诉讼, 公司。 经纪人说它不能估计, 它的10-Q 编档将被做或者到那时审计委员会将完成最近宣布他的辞职为Refco的首席运营官的它的investigation.FWilliam教堂司事, 将改为属于公司并且已经被任命为首席执行长官。 约瑟夫墨菲,全球期货和Refco有限责任公司的总统命名为Refco股份有限公司的总统的Refco的首席执行长官 以及Refco资本市场。 它存储着相信全部用户资金的说的Refco不被问题(围绕应收)影响。 Refco,其股票在他们的8月市场初次登台上涨百分之25,在14个国家和一次大的全球派生的清除操作有行动。 它用现金在在伦敦和新加坡和一名运动员,纽约,芝加哥的交换上是在最活跃的期货经纪人中外汇, 国际股票和欠债市场。 关掉的公司的股票12.96 美元,到15.60 美元在利用纽约证券交易所过程中。 (丹Wilchins的另外的报告)
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jacqueline
注册时间2005-06-30
发表于:2005-10-11 16:25只看该作者
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要是倒闭就大问题了
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注册时间2005-04-04
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我用金山快译翻的将就这看看 Refco 把运行长放在休假, 部份下降 45% 星期一十月 10 日 由克里斯散沙 纽约, 十月 10 日 (路透社)- Refco 公司's(RFX.N:引证,描绘, 研究) 部份洗物槽 45% 在星期一在日用品经纪人之后把它的执行长放在休假而且开始了对它被他控制的一个实体亏欠了的四亿三千万元的深入调查。在八月公开发售股票,和是世界的最大的和最有力的日用品之一和未来经销商的公司也说八月 31 日,它或许会延迟用安全调整者申请它的 10 Q 每季的财务报表四分之一结束。 公司股票在星期一遗失了市场价格的十六亿五千万元。 Refco 说它问也是主席的运行长腓力班尼特, 在发现大约四亿三千万元的应收帐款之后带休假。 钱在星期一由班尼特与兴趣一起偿还。 一位表现班尼特的律师没有回复一个要求意见。 圣者 Maggio, 总统和 Refco 安全 LLC 和 Refco 首都的执行长在市场上销售,公司,也被要求带休假。 汤姆斯 H. 拥有大约 39% 的 fco 的股票的李合伙人的共总统史考特 Schoen 说 Maggio 也被发现有应收帐款的 " 一些层知识 "。 Refco 已经雇用独立检察官和法院的审计官帮助它的董事会调查议题被讲到班尼特。 同时, Schoen 叫做崭新形成的董事会运行的委员会的主席。 公司对职员在一份备忘录中说哪一它有了 " 充足的流动性 " 继续它的生意而且它没有期待来自内在的检讨的在逐日的操作方面的任何的冲击。没有告诉被得到它已经考虑的四亿三千万元应收帐款的控制的公司可能无法收集,检讨已经迄今显示班尼特。 检讨的细节已经被报告所有的有关调整者,公司说。 让班尼特揭露他的应收帐款的控制了,公司的财务报表会反映那。 但是给债务被解释的方法, Refco 说,它决定财务报表为 2002,2003,2004 和 2005 不是可靠的。 金融股将会或许被重新叙述,美国安全分析家麦可 Hecht 的法官席在一个研究笔记中说。 ,"提供公司的之前会计和管制的议题 , 这可能今天带给群体一种意义深长的否定冲击 ," Hecht 补述。 班尼特在 1998 年接管了流动的 Refco 。 当 fco 然后-汤姆斯主席 Dittmer 把班尼特说成是有健全决策和 " 公开的财务身材 " 的一个 " 子弹证明 " 记录. 他在 1981 年已经从追求曼哈坦银行,他在信用和商业广告借贷中工作了叁加 Refco 。 1983 之前,他是 Refco 的财务主管。 Refco 过去以管制的议题已经摔交。在中部中-五月, 安全和交换佣金告诉经纪人它可能在公司的群体的一个卖空交易的调查之后推荐对抗公司的市民行动。 经纪人说当它的 10 Q 的申请将会被做的时候,它不能够估计或者当稽核委员会将会完成它的调查的时候。FWilliam 寺庙里的杂役, 最近宣布如操作官员的 fco 领袖的他的辞职,将会改为以公司保持和已经被指定运行长。 约瑟墨菲 , Refco 的运行长全球的未来和 Refco LLC 的总统叫做 Refco 公司和 Refco 资金市场的总统。 Refco 说它相信在存款上的所有的客户基金被围住应收帐款的议题未受影响。 Refco, 哪一个在他们的八月市场初次登场中上升了 25% 的部份,有 14个国家和大的全球引出的清扫行动的操作。 它在现金外汇, 国际的股票和债务市场的芝加哥,纽约, 伦敦和新加坡和一个运动员的交换上在最活跃的未来之中经纪人。 公司的部份关闭了下来 $12.96, 到 $15.60 在利用纽约股票市场方面。 (丹 Wilchins 的另外报告)
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